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Llandough Community Council — Forensic Assessment

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Page ID: 1564 · Title: Llandough Community Council — Forensic Assessment · Evidence status: Corrected 18 Oct 2026; evidence labels on the edited lines · Version: 1.0.1 · Editing Protocol

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Timeline scope — 12 October 2026: The graph aligns the Council’s documented appearances with the parcel history and HMLR title histories. It distinguishes parcel identity from registered-title administration. The 2 February 1987 amalgamation is a recorded register event; it does not itself settle the root-title dispute.

Forensic Assessment — Llandough Community Council

Scope: local community-council records and representations.

Role

The Community Council is relevant principally to local representations, heritage/community knowledge and later public discussion. It did not adjudicate the private title dispute.

Paul Egan — documented role and casework assessment

Current public status (checked 18 October 2026). The Council’s own Contact Us page continues to name Paul Egan as Clerk to the Council. The Council’s 11 October 2026 Section 12 refusal is signed “Paul R. Egan … Clerk to Llandough Community Council” (GHF-E183, 11 October entry). A public procurement notice posted in January 2026 also names Paul Egan as the Council contact. These are evidence that he was publicly listed and signing in the Clerk role at the respective dates; they do not independently establish uninterrupted tenure or a formal start/end date.

Historical public-role record. Paul Egan / Paul R. Egan is identified as representing Llandough Community Council in Welsh Government’s 2018 local-government reform consultation response documents. The Council’s own 2018 newsletter and Winter 2023 newsletter also identify him as Clerk. These are dated snapshots, not proof of uninterrupted service between them. A family understanding in June 2026 that he might be retiring was explicitly unverified and arose from a public social-media post; the present Council contact listing and 11 October signature show that he was still publicly listed/signing as Clerk at those later dates. The source reviewed here does not include a Council notice establishing the effective date of any retirement, reappointment, locum arrangement, handover or records-custody change.

Assessment boundary. The following comparison scores the usefulness of the response and the assistance offered in this particular record set. They are reviewer-assigned scores shown in the public Clerk insights dashboard, not official Council ratings, objective measures of every aspect of an officer’s work, or findings of misconduct. Response speed is treated separately from response quality. A lawful refusal is not automatically a poor response; the evaluation looks at whether the reply explains the position, addresses separate request categories, describes searches, offers workable refinement and identifies useful next steps.

Officer / body and response typeUsefulness (0–5)Facilitation (0–5)How the case is treated
Paul Egan / Llandough Community Council — Section 12 refusal, 11 October 2026 (exact evidence entry)11Refusal under FOIA Section 12; suggested narrowing minutes to 2002–2006 and offered internal review. It did not separately answer the photograph/image or 1982-transfer/deposit categories in the published response. The stated 20-minute reading plus 10-minute assessment for each of 224 sets gives 6,720 minutes / 112 hours if both activities apply to every set, whereas the letter says “over 2240 minutes” / 37 hours. This arithmetic inconsistency is identifiable from the transcription; it does not alone determine whether the refusal was lawful.
Paul Egan / Llandough Community Council — Section 21 response described as dated 14 June 2026 (exact source-status entry)22The later request describes a Section 21 reply pointing to Glamorgan Archives and the 2002 deposit of minute books. A useful destination and date were given, but the original message was not separately recovered for this review.
Paul Egan / Llandough Community Council — “unable to assist” contact, November 2025 (recorded on the dashboard)00The dashboard records the wording “I regret to inform you that we are unable to assist with the matter you raise.” The reviewed summary gives no exact sent date, so this is not assigned a reply-time measure and is not included in the 2026 FOI averages.
Glamorgan Archives55Selected comparison: repeated catalogue references, answers to numbered questions, corrections, quotations and practical next steps.
Museum Wales / Amgueddfa Cymru44Selected comparison: partial disclosures, schedules and scope clarifications, including willingness to re-examine the request.
National Archives / National Library of Wales (grouped)44Selected comparison: catalogue/location guidance, retention information and clear “not held” or alternative-location answers.
Vale of Glamorgan Council FOI unit33Selected comparison: formal case references and structured partial disclosures/reviews, with some outstanding material requiring follow-up.
MOD / South Wales Police / Welsh Government and Cadw (grouped)34Selected comparison: structured notices or partial releases and process handling; content differs because different exemptions and records regimes apply.

Key comparison. On the two scored 2026 FOI responses, the Clerk / Council mean is 1.5/5 usefulness and 1.5/5 facilitation. The selected peer-group means in the dashboard are 3.8/5 usefulness and 4.0/5 facilitation. The dashboard describes most peer response bands as within a broad 10–20 working-day window; the sideways chart position of an unmeasured peer is illustrative, not an exact day-count. The 11 October letter is dated on a Sunday; the dashboard’s calculation records 14 working days elapsed by Friday 9 October from the request dated 21 September, with the response still inside the 20-working-day period when measured against the working-day calendar used in that analysis. The 14 June response is assessed at 18 working days when the late-May bank holiday is excluded (19 if counted); the original source is not separately recovered.

Scope of the comparison. These are the comparator bodies/groups presently named in the dashboard, not a census of every associated person, employee, organisation or party involved in the wider Great House Farm dispute. The peer groups are aggregated, not individual staff appraisals. Scores are issue-specific editorial judgements based on the correspondence as reviewed, not an official league table. Their purpose is to make the differences in the sampled correspondence legible, not to infer motive or general personal competence.

Thread and chronology links. The September and October correspondence, revised family messages and source-status notes are set out in the dedicated GHF-E183 email evidence page, with individual anchors for the 28 September Chair’s reply, 11 October refusal signed by Egan, 13 October 03:25 UTC revised family email and 13 October 20:09 UTC Clerk acknowledgement source-status entry. See also the correspondence chronology.

Forensic control test

Identify minutes, correspondence, petitions, planning representations and referrals concerning Great House Farm/Tŷ Mawr and later site development. Record what was actually known to the Council at each date.

Current finding

No adverse institutional finding is established.

Note on clerkship status statements (June–October 2026).
On 14 June 2026 the researcher emailed Paul Egan stating an understanding that he was leaving, based on a public Facebook post by Cllr George Carroll. That post described the fete as “the last village fete that Paul Egan is organising before he retires as the clerk” (i.e. future retirement, not a completed departure). No reply correcting or clarifying the status of the clerkship was received. For the subsequent correspondence trail, including the 11 October 2026 reply still signed as Clerk, see the Llandough Community Council — Correspondence Chronology and the linked GHF-E170 / GHF-E106-R55 records.

Human action

Request a targeted minute-book and correspondence search for the relevant 1980s and later planning/heritage periods, and cross-reference representations to the Council’s parent planning authority records.

Acceptance: complete search statement and copies/refs of relevant local records.

Llandough Community Council — events aligned with parcel and title history

The graph places the Council’s dated appearances against the same calendar axis as the Parcel A/Parcel B reconstruction and the WA231076, WA240304 and WA735527 title histories. The red track marks recorded Council-related events; its dotted connector is a chronological guide, not evidence of continuous activity. Each event links to its fuller source record.

Parcel A — family title case Parcel B — tenancy/area trace WA231076 WA240304 — amalgamated in 1987 WA735527 — woodland Llandough Community Council appearances
CALENDAR YEAR — horizontal spacing is proportional to elapsed time; track height identifies the subject, not a numerical value.
PARCEL A
House plot — family title case; contested
PARCEL B
Eastern fields — tenancy-plan trace
WA231076
Main-site title; applied for 30 Nov 1982
WA240304
Farmhouse/garden title; amalgamated in 1987
WA735527
Woodland title; source strands assessed separately
LLANDOUGH CC
Reported archaeology / records events
WA240304 → WA231076
2 titles
Council contact recorded by 1990
2025–26 records
1880
1900
1920
1940
1960
1980
2000
2020
1877 arrangement
1928 transition (family case)
1982–83 registration
1987 amalgamation
1994

Reading the join: WA231076 and WA240304 are separate registration tracks in 1982–83. The WA240304 farmhouse-and-garden line ends at the recorded 2 February 1987 amalgamation into WA231076. Parcel A and Parcel B are land-identity/research tracks, not judicial findings of ownership. WA735527 is shown separately because its source strands and parcel relationship require independent review.

Dated events and source links

1877–1928
Parcel A — early history
The family reconstruction links the Bute–Thomas arrangement to the house plot and treats the end of quarrying/rent in 1928 as the point at which Parcel A passed to the Williams family. The title effect remains to be established from the original instrument and related evidence.
1938–1939
Parcel B — eastern agricultural land
The 1938 conveyance and 1939 WGR–John Williams tenancy establish the separate agricultural-field strand in the current reconstruction. The Wiki’s reading of the 1939 plan is that it depicts Parcel B, not the farmhouse plot.
1955 / 1962
Possession proceedings and parcel extent
The family case is that 1955 enforcement of Parcel B also took the northern woodland and south-eastern ground later registered as VG41. The 1962 proceedings concern a later stage of the occupied house group. These are disputed land-extent questions, not findings against the Community Council.
31 December 1969
WGR → BP Pension Trust
The recorded company/title chain proceeds from Western Ground Rents to BP Pension Trust. That transfer and later registrations must not be treated, without instrument-level analysis, as proof that every part of Parcel A was conveyed.
30 November 1982 / 23 February 1983
Two title applications
WA231076 was applied for on 30 November 1982. WA240304 was applied for on 23 February 1983 and is identified in the title history as the farmhouse-and-garden title registered on the 23 May 1975 conveyance. The two register histories are shown separately until the recorded amalgamation.
2 February 1987
WA240304 amalgamated into WA231076
The WA240304 register was amalgamated into WA231076 and closed. The graph joins those register lines at the recorded date. Registration administration does not by itself determine whether the root instruments conveyed every parcel in the resulting title.
10 November 1994
Woodland title WA735527
A separate woodland-title strand records the transfer to Forest of Cardiff. It is shown independently rather than as a proven continuation of WA231076 because the source deeds and plan strands require parcel-level comparison.
By the 1990 GGAT assessment
Council involvement in redevelopment / archaeology
The assessment says the Community Council initially contacted GGAT about redevelopment and remained in close contact. It thanks Mr Egan for his cooperation. The report gives no precise date for first contact. This documents reported redevelopment/archaeology involvement, not knowledge of the disputed root-title case.
20 November 2025
Records-access response
The Records Access Chronology records the Community Council as unable to assist. This is a documented records-access appearance; the detailed underlying correspondence remains in the records-access trail.
18 May–14 June 2026
Minutes deposit and jurisdiction statement
The earlier Council response was recorded as stating that minutes from 1982 onwards were deposited at Glamorgan Archives in 2002. A jurisdiction description about the area before 1982 is tracked separately in SC-22 and should be reconciled against the source records.
14 June–11 October 2026
Clerkship status — unresolved
The 14 June correspondence records the researcher’s understanding, based on a public post describing a future retirement. The 11 October Council reply is signed by Paul Egan as Clerk. The reviewed records do not establish whether a formal retirement date or change of status occurred.
20–28 September 2026
Chair response and referral
“We have nothing more to add” is quoted in the 28 September email; the original 20 September message has not been recovered separately. On 28 September the Chair said the request had been passed to the Clerk.
21 September–11 October 2026
FOI/EIR request and section 12 refusal
The request covered post-2002 site records, images of any date and the 1982 transfer/deposit. The 11 October reply refused under section 12, offered refinement and internal review, and deferred discretionary matters to the October meeting. The stated “over 2,240 minutes” is about 37 hours; 224 sets × (20 minutes reading + 10 minutes assessment) totals 112 hours if both tasks apply to every set. This is a calculation discrepancy, not by itself a finding of legal breach.

Attribution boundary and current finding

GHF-E171 — Vale of Glamorgan ward representations and complaint route concerns ward-representation correspondence and the Vale of Glamorgan Council Monitoring Officer process. It is not an act by Llandough Community Council and is linked only to keep institutional attribution clear: GHF-E171 · Vale of Glamorgan Council forensic assessment.

Current finding: no adverse institutional finding is established. The 1990 report documents involvement in redevelopment/archaeology; the 2025–26 pages document later records-access and correspondence. The reviewed record does not establish that the Community Council adjudicated the private title dispute or had proven knowledge of the family’s root-title case. A targeted search of relevant minutes, correspondence, planning/heritage representations and referrals remains outstanding.

Related records: Llandough Community Council correspondence chronology · Records Access Chronology · FOI & Public-Authority Reply Register · Source Conflicts Register · Institutional Involvement Roadmap · Land Registry Titles.

Site-wide hypothesis: see the Cedwyn Estate Working Theory (HYPOTHESIS).

Response Friction Score — linked message assessments

The Council’s 20 September wording, the 28 September forwarding reply and the 11 October section 12 refusal are scored separately. The quote-only status of the 20 September wording and the section 12 estimate-method question are explicitly recorded; no finding of unlawful refusal or deliberate concealment is made from the score alone. Read the score, source limits and follow-up tests.

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New evidence, 20 October 2026

New evidence catalogued on the Legal Wiki on 20 October 2026 that bears on this page. Each linked page gives the source, what it fits and what cuts against it.

  • EV-0266 — Glamorgan Archives P35/11–29: Llandough-juxta-Penarth Community Council minutes 1982–2000; with Penarth UDC (UDPE, 1898–1974), Cardiff RDC (RDC, 1862–1974) and Glamorgan County Council (GCC, 1907–1984) series (catalogue entries) (CATALOGUE ENTRY ONLY (records not seen))
  • EV-0273 — South Wales Echo, 23 February 1990, p.1: “company chiefs are bidding [to] build homes” on the Great House Farm land; Llandough Community Council made no objection but wanted the land registered as village green (snippet) (SNIPPET ONLY (article not opened))

Our case, prospective. Not a finding of any court.